Welcome to the wonderful world of mining within the Discovery Mod. This guide serves as the latest version of the tutorial designed to inform new and existing players about the changes made by Cannon’s Mining Mod implemented in March of 2011. Many changes were made from 4.8.77 to 4.88.1 and then, even more, changes were made to where we are now - 4.91.0 Patch 8
This tutorial was made to help newer or even older players. If something seems off post a message here or below.
For those who are new to mining in Discovery, keep this in mind
- You will need a specialized mining ship to harvest ores. More on this in a moment.
- Mining requires mining turrets in addition to a mining ship.
- Finally, you require a mining company ID (for example, DHC) with a matching IFF, or alternatively, an independent Freelancer ID, available for sale on most stations.
- Ore is automatically transferred into your cargo bay. You don’t have to tractor in ore as per vanilla / other previous mods.
- Only mining turrets are effective for mining. Other weapons are practically useless for mining operations.
Setup
To make sure of the mining bonus you will need specialized equipment: A mining ID, a compatible mining ship and mining turrets.
Mining IDs are specific IDs that allow you to mine. Some companies specialize in mining, as well as independent Miners. Finally, some quasi-lawful and unlawful groups have the limited ability to mine select ores. All IDs must be used in tandem with their matching IFF, except in the case of the Freelancer ID, which may use any IFF (or none at all). Here is a run-down of all the factions available:
A Liberty company. Specializes in various forms of salvage and Pristine Ice. DSE can mine the following commodities: Military Salvage, Premium Scrap, Pristine Ice, and Scrap Metal
Bretonia Mining and Manufacturing
A Bretonian mining company that runs most of Bretonia's mining. Specializes in Beryllium, Gold, Beryllium, Uncut Diamonds and Niobium. They have operations in Cambridge, Manchester, Omega-3 and Dublin. BMM can mine the following commodities: Beryllium Ore, Gold Ore, Niobium Ore and Uncut Diamonds
Planetform, Inc.
While not a competitor to other mining and resource extraction corporations, Planetform has developed specialized technology to extract useful terraforming materials from asteroids and other sources. Planetform can mine the following commodities: Alien Organisms and Pristine Ice.
Cryer Pharmaceuticals
An inter-house corporation focused on development of new medications, while not a mining faction, Cryer occasionally dabble in organic sample gathering for research purposes. Cryer can mine Alien Organisms.
Daumann Heavy Construction
A Rheinland company. Specializes in Uncut Diamonds. They have operations in Omega-3, Omega-48, Omega-11 and Munich. Daumann can mine the following commodities: Aluminum Ore, Beryllium Ore and Uncut Diamonds.
Kruger Minerals
A Rheinland mining company. Specializes in Beryllium. They have operations in Omega-3 and Omega-48. Kruger can mine the following commodities: Aluminium Ore, Beryllium Ore, Helium-3, Uncut Diamonds, and Uranium Ore.
ALG Waste Disposal
A Rheinland company. Specializes in Scrap, Premium Scrap, Military Salvage and Toxic Waste reclamation. Operations in: New London, Texas, New Berlin, Leeds, Bering, Hudson and Munich. ALG can mine the following commodities: Military Salvage, Premium Scrap and Scrap Metal
EFL Oil & Machinery
A Gallic company specializing in Oil and Machinery production. EFL can mine the following commodities: Premium Scrap, Raw Hydrocarbons, and Scrap Metal.
Gallic Metal Service
A Gallic company with a wide range of operations. GMS can mine the following commodities: Gold Ore, Molybdenum Ore, Niobium Ore, and Raw Hydrocarbons.
Samura Industries
A Kusari company. Samura can mine the following commodities: Alien Organisms, Helium 3, Platinum Ore and Raw Hydrocarbons.
Kishiro Technologies
A large Kusari industrial company. They have operations in Sigma 19. Kishiro Technologies can mine the following commodities: Helium-3, Raw Hydrocarbons, and Uranium Ore.
Gas Miners Guild
Not affiliated with any house (basically a small house themselves). They have operations in Okinawa, Sigma 13, Sigma 19. The GMG can mine the following commodities: Helium, Helium-3, and Alien Organisms.
Independent Miners Guild
A mining company not affiliated with any house. Ore bonuses generally lower than house companies. Specializes in Niobium. Currently has operations in: Tau 23, Tau 37, Dublin, Omega-48, Cambridge. IMG can mine: Beryllium Ore, Gold Ore, Niobium Ore and Uncut Diamonds.
Unlawful
Xenos
Liberty unlawful faction. Can mine the following commodities: Pristine Ice and Premium Scrap in civilian vessels.
Red Hessians
Rheinland unlawful faction. Can mine the following commodities: Uncut Diamonds.
Unioners
Rheinland unlawful faction. Can mine the following commodities: Military Salvage.
Mollys
Bretonian unlawful faction. Can mine the following commodities: Gold.
Corsairs
Hispanic unlawful faction. Can mine the following commodities: Alien Artifacts and Xeno Relics.
Outcasts
Hispanic unlawful faction. Can mine the following commodities: Xeno Relics and Niobium Ore.
Gallic Brigands
Gallic unlawful faction. Can mine Scrap Metal on l'Ane and Courier.
Other
Junkers
Not affiliated with any house. Specializes in scrap mining. Operations in: New London, Texas, New Berlin. Junkers can mine Military Salvage, Premium Scrap, Scrap Metal.
Zoners
Can mine the following commodities: Iridium Ore and Alien Organisms.
The Order
Unlawful Edge Worlds Faction. Can mine the following commodities: Iridium Ore, Azurite Gas and Alien Organisms.
The Core
Lawful Edge Worlds faction. Can mine the following commodities: Iridium Ore, Azurite Gas and Alien Organisms.
Gammu AI
Edge Worlds faction. Can mine the following commodities: Iridium, Iridium Ore, Azurite Gas and Alien Organisms.
Freelancer ID
The Freelancer ID is used for miners who do not wish to affiliate themselves to any faction. The Freelancer ID allows mining of any commodity type, at a slower rate, with any affiliation. The Indie Freelancer ID can mine any ore in any freighter and transports up to 3.6k cargo size.
Mining Turrets are sold on most planets, corporate bases, and Freeports, as well as Junker bases. They come in three varieties: "Small Mineral Extractors" are for use on light fighters, “Light Mining Arrays”, for heavy fighters/freighter turrets, and “Heavy Mining Arrays”, which fit on the heavier transports. They do virtually no damage in combat but are the only turrets capable of mining ore effectively.
Mining lasers operate by adding ore to your cargo hold when they strike and destroy a floating chunk of ore. Because of this, there is a chance you can gain increased ore through careful placement of your mining lasers. For example, on the Annapurna IMG freighter, placing mining lasers on every slot except slots one and two will result in a decent increase in ore drop rate. Slots vary between the different vessels, BUT if you use the numbers listed above you should get optimum results.
Mining Ships when used with a compatible ID can provide extra droprate from mining fields. Not all mining ships can get a bonus on every mining ID, so check Part II of the guide for a detailed list of which IDs provide a bonus with which ships and for which ores.
Surveyor Light Fighter All around weak, with a small loadout and cargo hold. Nimble but otherwise ineffective for mining by yourself - useful as a miner for larger transports. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3-4-5
Scraper Very Heavy Fighter Stronger than the Surveyor, but still small. Ineffective without a friend in a cargo vessel. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slot 7
Arrastra Super Heavy Fighter The strongest of the “generic miner” line, capable of being used as a combat vessel or escort, but very unwieldy. Unrecommended for either combat or mining. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 3-4-5-6-7
Spatial Super Heavy Fighter Heavier than the Arrastra with a massive wingspan, this fighter is more useful for combat than anything else. Possible but ineffective to mine in. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 7-8
Tournez Gallic Light Fighter A gallic facsimile of the Surveyor. Roughly as effective. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3-4-5
Courbe Gallic Very Heavy Fighter Same as above, for the Scraper. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slot 1-2-3-4
Plier Gallic Super Heavy Fighter Same as above, for the Arrastra. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3-4
Collector Very Heavy Fighter A relatively light Junker craft that may be used to mine scrap, although it is not recommended. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 6-7
Recycler Super Heavy Fighter A large Junker super heavy fighter, the Recycler may be used in a similar respect as the CSF, although its lower cargo hold and larger frame make it an easy target for pirate craft. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 3-4-7
AI Drone Gammu AI super heavy fighter. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 5-6
Kestrel Given as the default starter ship. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 3-4-5-6-7
Anki A small freighter, similar to the Kestrel in function and size. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 3-4-5-6
Annapurna A very capable yet small miner, the Annapurna requires a nearby transport to unlock its full effectiveness. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 3-4-5-6
Camara Civilian Industrial Freighter, originally built by DSE but soon gained popularity due to its sturdiness and is now used by various factions across the sector. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3
Dromedary Borderworlds freighter Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 4-5-6-7
Aurochs Gallic mining Freighter Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 3-4-5-6
Clydesdale Bretonian mining freighter. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 4-5-6-7
Drone Kusari mining Freighter Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 4-5-6-7
Garanchou A small freighter used by the GMG to gather gas in the Sigmas. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-6-7
Grizzly Liberty light freighter. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3-4
Rhino Liberty light freighter. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 4-5-6-8
Ragnar Rheinland Armored Transport Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 4-5-6-7
Voyager Deep Space Freighter Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3-4
Correo Corsair freighter miner. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 5-6-7-8
CSF Larger cousin of the CSV, with multiple forward-firing mining turret mounts. More practical for a group mining vessel, but not recommended as a standalone craft. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 4-5-7-8
CSV Small junker freighter with little armament or cargo hold. Due to a rear-firing turret, it is practically useless for mining. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 4-5
Hegemon Large Transport The most ubiquitous mining vessel, tends to become a bit stuck and is very large for its cargo size. Holds the largest amount of turrets of any mining vessel, but remains a very easy target for pirates. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3-4
Kaiser Mining Ship Newly introduced Rheinland mining vessel with Hegemon-like cargo hold. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 2-3-4-5-6-7
Kamome A medium-size transport, the Kamome is utilized for Helium-3 collecting. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3-4
Rock Badger Gallic Transport Essentially a smaller gallic Hegemon, this ship is very effective at gathering and transporting ore. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-5-9
Armicustos Corsair Transport Used by Corsairs for mining artifacts. Mining Array Hardpoints
Behemoth Medium Transport Medium-sized Rheinland transport used by ALG and Kruger. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 5-6-7-8
Bullmastiff Pirate Transport Heavily armored ship capable of mining Artifacts. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-3-4-5-6
Raba Corsair Artifact miner. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2 or 5-6
Salvager Heavily armored with a thin profile, the Junker Salvager is the premier vessel for mining scrap and transporting it through hostile space, especially with its light gunboat powercore and weapon armaments. It may either be used as a transport or as a standalone miner/transport hybrid. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 4-5-6-7
Dunlin A defense-oriented civilian frigate with limited mining capabilities, occasionally used by Freelancers, Zoners and Junkers. Mining Array HardpointsPlace on slots 1-2-3-4
Please note that the values for gun hardpoints may be incorrect.
They were done in single player with a visual test and have not been tested against the server side drop rate. If you notice an issue please report it in this thread.
Mining and Transportation
Follow the above instructions? Great! You’re on track to becoming the next richest person in Sirius! Now, you’ll need to know where to mine, and where to bring it to once you’ve mined it.
Mining fields can be found by checking your map - open your map by hitting the F7 key (by default) or the map icon in the top right. There will often be large exclusion zones that when hovering over will read "Mining Zone" or something similar. When entering a zone, there will also be text that is displayed that will read "Entering Mining Zone" or something similar.
You can only gain ore while inside these fields, and ore will only drop from the small floating rocks, not the larger stationary ones. If you are not gaining any ore from the field, it is possible that:
- You’re not in a mining field: most mining fields are spheres, and it is possible that you’re above or below the field by a small amount. Set a waypoint if you’re worried this is the case.
- You are not capable of mining the ore effectively. Make sure your ID, IFF, ship, and turret all match what is required to mine that specific type of ore. For example, the “Sabre” VHF with Flashpoints is not going to be an effective mining craft.
- The field isn’t active. This is a rarity, but some fields in Discovery are turned off, either for balance purposes or due to their superfluousness.
- You have another ship selected, and are filling it, instead of your own hold. CTRL+T, by default, will de-select the current target.
If all else fails, contact other players in the field, players of any of the official mining factions, or post a reply in this thread. There will always be people willing to help you out.
Beginner Mining
The Helium field in Pennsylvania (sector C6) is specifically tuned for newer players who're just starting out and don't yet have access to larger transports that'd make longer routes worthwhile. Unlike regular Ores that need specialized mining ships to make use of the mining bonus, Helium can be mined on any freighter and transport up to 3.6k cargo with Freelancer ID, IFF and mining turrets.
There are various sellpoints for it at different distances, all providing a decent profit. Short-range sellpoints are ideal for running on freighters and smaller transports but are only one-way profit as they don't tie into any return commodities, while the medium-sized transports can start heading out to farther sellpoints and add the option of return commodities to make the trip worthwhile. Farthest sellpoints from Pennsylvania are set up more or less on par with standard ore routes, but only return a decent profit if done in larger transports.
Freighter Sellpoints:
- Pennsylvania - Bethlehem Station - $1921
- Pennsylvania - Planet Erie - $2916
- New York - Planet Manhattan - $4950
Small Transport Sellpoints:
- Kepler - Ames Research Station - $5330
- Hudson - Cold Bay Depot - $5507
- New London - Planet New London - $7880
- New Tokyo - Planet New Tokyo - $8190
Large Transport Sellpoints:
- Munich - Ingolstadt Station - $12772
- Sigma-59 - Niigata Star City - $13204
- Omicron Theta - Corfu Base - $15305
Have Problems or Questions?
Ask a nearby miner or an online [Staff] member for help. If neither of those options are available, feel free to leave a post in this thread and someone will be more than happy to get back to you with assistance.
This tutorial was made to help newer or even older players. If something seems off post a message here or below.
Welcome to the wonderful world of mining within the Discovery Mod. This guide serves as the latest version of the tutorial designed to inform new and existing players about the changes made by Cannon’s Mining Mod implemented in March of 2011. For those who are new to mining in Discovery, keep this in mind:
Most smaller ships and small transports can mine ores, some better than others.
Mining requires a mining laser mounted in order to extract ores.
Finally, you require a mining company ID (for example, DHC)
Ore is automatically transferred into your cargo bay. You don’t have to tractor in ore as per vanilla / other previous mods.
Only mining turrets are effective for mining. Other weapons are practically useless for mining operations.
Gold
-Chartres Space Colony (EFL Oil and Machinery), Orleanais System, 222 sc
-Freeport 11 (Zoners), Omicron Delta System, 211 sc
-Kansai Research Institute (Kusari Naval Forces), Honshu System, 196 sc
H-Fuel
-Thames Outpost (BMM), New London System, 213 sc
-Trafalgar Base (Junkers), New London System, 213 sc
-Arranmore Base (Mollys), Dublin System, 205 sc
(12-06-2017, 01:32 PM)Mixis Wrote: Where are the stats on "Series DL Border Worlds Transport". I would like to know what I can mine with it.
You can only mine in freighters and corresponding ID of the mining faction to gain their bonuses. The only transport-miner combo ships are Kamome, Hegemon and Rockbadger, but these also need proper ID otherwise you'll receive no mining bonus at all. Obviously freighters mine ores faster than these three for balance reasons.
That said, transports do not mine because mining as activity is destined to be a cooperative business, directly through filling other transports or indirectly by selling cargo on POBs (Player Owned Bases) from where transports buy out the mined out ores.
The Anki and Garanchou are non-house miners, as the Anki is a civilian ship and the Garanchou is a GMG ship.
The Garanchou gets bonuses on alien organisms (if they're even worth mentioning) and cryo organisms, I don't recall for sure if the Kamome gets the same but if I had to guess, I'd imagine it does. Perhaps someone else knows off the top of their head.
The mention of the Okinawa field is redundant as it has been deactivated in favour of Sigma-19.
@Erulad - Copper Ore can be mined with the DHC ID and the DSE ID. DHC can mine with any of the generic civilian miners as well as the Ragnar, while DSE can mine with any of the generic civilian miners and the Rino. Ore is best mined with a freighter or light fighter as this will be the fastest way, but you cannot transport it elsewhere due to the low hold size. If you want to both transport and mine, you'll have to use the Hegemon Miner.
@Neptune - Ahh thanks. I've only been in Liberty about 5 or 6 times since I returned so I sorta forgot about all those changes. Will fix.
@Venkman - Does it look that bad? I personally think it looks a lot more organised.
(12-07-2017, 06:49 PM)Erulad Wrote: Hello, can you advice me best combinations for mining Copper Ore? Which ship with what ID mine it fastest? And what ship out of all good for copper mining, has most capacious cargo hold? Thanks, in advance!
If you wish to mine Copper ore in Kansas the best way to do it is in a Rhino with DSE ID. You put the Light Mining Arrays on slots 4-5-6-7 if I'm not mistaken ( 4 turrets should be parallel ). You can also mine it with a Hegemon.
If you wish to mine in Omega-7 I would suggest taking Ragnar, but you can also use Hegemon if you want a big ship.
D'oh! It seems I have been ninja'd, but here is the long answer to your question, @Erulad
According to the OP, it depends. If you go for Deep Space Engineering (DSE - Liberty), the Hegemon and Rhino are really the only two recommended ships if you're looking for something with decent cargo space. DSE has a mining bonus of 4.0 for Copper. If you go for Daumann Heavy Construction (DHC - Rheinland)
If you want pure mining speed, go for a Surveyor and fill all weapon hardpoint slots with Light Mining Arrays. Usable by both recommended IDs.
The Rhino has a Hold size of 560. Placement of turreted Light Mining Arrays goes in hardpoint slots 4-5-6-7. Cruises at 400m/s and does well in third person view; best in first person. DSE ID.
The Hegemon has a Hold size of 2,750. Placement of Heavy Mining Arrays goes in hardpoint slots 1-2-3-4. Cruises at 350m/s and is really only usable in first person. The Hegemon has a terrible REEEEERRR-grind-grind-grind sound you have to deal with, so playing with sound off is recommended. The Hegemon also tends to get stuck on asteroids frequently. I also recommend mapping roll left or right to your tilde key for first-person rolling, which helps more than having to un-cruise to get un-stuck from a rock. Usable by both recommended IDs.
The Ragnar has a hold size of 850. Placement of Mining Arrays goes in hardpoint slots 4-5-6-7. I'm actually not sure on how fast it cruises, but it does get a transport shield. DHC ID.
Two pokes in regard of Iridium Ore again. Or rather - three.
- Xenos do not have any sellpoint for captured Iridium Ore.
- Zoners, except of Valetta and Tripoli, have no other place to push that commodity in their 5kers.
- Iridium Ore mining zone has (rare, but still) spawning NPC Gunboat patrols.
I should probably point something out here. I have no say in what things are like so it's pointless pointing out issues that are not directly related to the guide's content.
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